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  1. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

    There were enough people who had convictions enough that we shouldn't have gone to war.
  2. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

    And to snakes given they are in fact mostly spine.
  3. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

    This is what The Sun did to you if you stood by your convictions on not backing going into the Iraq War...
  4. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

    I don't agree that it was popular opinion not to go. I seem to remember that as with Brexit, much of the country and the media were in support of going to war against Saddam and his blatant ignoring of UN resolutions. Yes, plenty of people demonstrated and were against it, but it wasn't a...
  5. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

    Funnily enough, reading some of the memos Blair sent to Bush in full and you do read one man trying to talk sense to another, but perhaps realising it is probably futile. At the end of the day, it came down to whether we remained very good friends with the Americans or not. Our involvement while...
  6. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

  7. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

    Well actually, that is the great irony of this enquiry. Over 1 million people marched to stop the war BECAUSE many didn't believe the dossier or intelligence at the time. Robin Cook resigned, the Lib Dems were steadfast, much of Labour was looking to rebel, Blair's crucial allies in getting the...
  8. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

    Exactly. Far too many in this country were only too ready to go to war. MPs would know how reliable intelligence is, a huge swathe of the country knew how reliable it was as the inspectors hadn't found anything for years. I think it is a convenient truth that those in believed in the war and...
  9. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

    Blair didn't have the power to get this through on his own. MPs from all sides voted 412 to 149 to authorise the war. That was 146 Conservative for, 2 against, Labour 254 for, 84 against, and all the 52 Lib Dems voted against. I find it chilling to suggest that 412 MPs were duped by Tony Blair...
  10. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

    You have to trace the hostilities of the Middle East and how we reached this point a lot further back than 1997. To turn the Middle East trouble into a Labour Party issue, is as daft as blaming the global financial crisis on them too.
  11. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

    To suggest Blair was responsible for this deception strikes me as believing our PM has authoritarian powers I just cannot believe actually exist. I find it a huge leap to suggest that in the corridors of power, the intelligence community, military, civil service etc. that Blair's lone...
  12. Bold Seagull

    Chilcot report

    This really isn't any different to what many people thought at the time. Vindication for those that stood against the government on this one. Charles Kennedy, ridiculed at the time as too liberal/soft now vindicated for his stand against going to war, as is Jeremy Corbyn.
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