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You've missed the point. Every single one of the players you've labelled as "duds" would be quality at our level.

Bearing in mind which division we play in, all those players went to top 4 clubs

How do you know that Holla wasn't playing the same game?

Does sound about right, Clayton first choice and this was their backup. We all know they failed with Clayton and you've had plenty to say about that kev, but why does this also have to be seen as a negative? If we publicly fail to sign someone is it also a failure that we managed to sign the...

From what we've seen so far is it fair to say that Hyppia wants to play a diamond in midfield consisting of two box2box (Crofts,JFC,Holla,Stephens), one holding (Ince, Toko, Holla) and one advanced (teixeira, kaz, stephens)?

The main thing I've taken from this thread is that the usual suspects are instantly putting a downer on it. You really can't please some people.