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The point being you seem to have identified poverty where non exists, having mental health issues or being in an abusive environment are extremely challenging and requires support but it doesn't necessarily mean they are in poverty whilst not being rich doesn't make you poor. For the record...

Poverty is an arbitrary calculation, something like if you earn just 60% of the annual average or something like that, I am not sure it is a true indicator of very much, I remember about ten years a number of businesses had access to funding due to someone somewhere calculating that where I live...

It was a little bit 'St Trinian'ish' though ........

Of course it doesnt make them those things I never said it did, I said if you care to look at the support and benefits that those that are entitled to it already receive then the discussion should be how a family receiving 'x' amount find themselves unable feed or care for their family...

Dont be daft, it quite obviously changes the political aspect of your post and might shift responsibility away from the state and on to someone else, why not do the entitlement calculator and we can perhaps see who we might want to blame, just give it a go ? https://www.entitledto.co.uk/ why...

If an adult 'self inflicts' financial hardship on themselves or their children, then it shouldn't necessarily be categorised as poverty in the context currently discussed. I know many examples where there is a claim of poverty/hardship when they have just been feckless, dysfunctional or...

Similarly poverty shouldn't be defined as dysfunctionality or neglect.

Here he is, had you down for the first nerdy member to reply, expected a bit more if I am honest.

Looks like the nerdy gang are out in force. You have Herr Tubthumper the daft socialist who bizarrely has centre right Merkel as his political wet nurse, then our very own vegster who hasn't stopped whinging since the morning June 24th 2016 can you imagine spending even one minute in this guy's...

Away from the obvious illegal stuff, it seems to me the key for condemnation is disparity of age and attractiveness.