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They've given up. Thank ****.

Agreed. Most parents, unencumbered by lunatics, zealots and religious ****wits can discuss the merciful cessation of pointless medically sustained life with their Doctor and Nurses and make a decision based on facts and science. The parents have only reached the denial phase of the grieving...

If our courts are arguing that death is preferable to a life destroyed by disease then...ffs, they're right. The one thing, actually the ONLY. Thing we own is our life. No one else has any claim on it. It is OURS to end whenever we want. Why suicide is still technically "self murder" rendering...

I would live to see the debate between a paediatric doctor and the pope on this one.

"....if I say God is alive I know that people wanna know why babies die,why crops don't grow why, people cry, planes crash, trains smash situations mashed. But, dammit, when God created the planet, and all of its wealth, deep down inside he left a piece of himself. The Lord is in HERE, his...

I'm happy that this thread has finally got to the point here. On the first hand we have medical science. The law, and humanists. On the other we have religion, politicians, dogma and conspiracists. All I ask of the second group is that we are allowed to rely on evidence, technology and...

This is a fantastic example of religion behaving badly. I wonder if the Pope has wondered why Alfie was afflicted with this dreadful brain destroying illness in the first place. If God was planning to intervene you would have thought he would have done it before his brain was reduced to...

Alfie and his parents are scousers...do you mean them in this sweeping statement? Just because some religiously motivated knobheads behave like total plums I imagine that the overall population of Liverpool is just as divided on this as the rest of us. If Alfie was in the Royal Sussex there...

What Alder Hey are arguing is more complex I think. What they seem to be saying is that Alfie's parents are not competent to make decisions on Alfie's medical care and, as far as I can see, every court in the UK and Europe agree with them. If they then say, well, we were wrong, it's fine to...

Tom Evans had just spoken outside the Hospital and, whilst he sounds articulate and reasonable..."Alfie is day three post extubation and is still making respiratory effort on his own, any other child would be out of ITU and on a ward" etc. Etc. The issue now is that he is still saying that...

This whole thing should be between the Medics and Alfie's parents. There is no need for some religious zealots, lawyers, hoooman rights "activists" and morons to stick their oars in. Our society is going mad.

The parents want to fly him to Italy so he can lie, emaciated, in a sterile hospital bed, surrounded by strangers, until he dies. Our courts think that's not a good idea. There you have it.

Like I say. Their Catholics. They'll keep you alive whether or not you want to be. Why can't the poor sod just stay in Liverpool, with his mum and dad, and just slip off? "Theres a fully equipped air ambulance from Italy just waiting" to do what? Fly the poor kid across Europe to be fed...

The folk outside Alder Hey are, by and large, twats. Alfie's parents are clearly distressed and deluded. Even the doctors in Italy and Germany, who have assessed him, agree he is irreversibly brain damaged. He will never see, hear or speak and will spend his life in hospital. The only...