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According to soccerbase he made 19 starts and was a sub 19 times but no mention of how many times he actually came on as a sub. Now 34 years old and in the last year of his contract. so always a loan possibility as I cannot see him figuring much for them this season.

I would like us to look at signing Peter Crouch either permanent or on loan for a season. He is 34 years old how long can he stay on the verge of Stokes team

I dont agree with doing it but I can see the logic of starting the season with what we can obtain and afford and then wait for the Premier to allow players out on loan during the loan window. then bringing in them in, provided it is season loans not short term. We could have never afforded...

I thought Ward had been released, so no fee involved, my mistake.

We obviously didnt do it with Stephen Ward and possibly Lewis Grabban.although in his case I think it was termed couldnt agree terms.(offered more to stay at AFCB)

That was my point a legal agreement for a player to actually sign on 1st July.with no get out by either party before then so cannot be tempted by higher wages at the last minute.as per Ward and Grabban. This applies to any player not necessarily Cody McDonald, of whom I know nothing.so have...

If the deal gave them what they wanted what does it matter if it is the 1st or 21st offer.

Can we not agree a deal with players to be effective from 1st July thus getting in quick but not paying double wages to both the new and old players.