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Players missing chances do not give away a goal but a goal keeping mistake usually does and this is not highlighting DS but a general comment related to all keepers.

As per the forthcoming game at Wigan. Most on here are talking the actual word of the mouth technicalities. I am talking of the practicality of how it pans out if any goalkeepers drops a bloomer.

When we missed out on automatic under Gus did anybody remember the defeats early season no only the defeat at Forest etc. We are going around in circles so perhaps should agree to disagree.

I fully accept that but ultimately it could have been down to a goal keeping error that nailed relegation. That doesnt affect us now because as I have said DS has improved tremendously and long may it continue.

We both finished on 47 had we lost we would have had 46 (-1) they would have had 49 (+2) so 3 different, I think

Dis regarding him as a person I think that he is one of the best left midfielders playing in the FL and has earned a lot of money from it so some managers must agree.

Not true a brilliant free kick by the best left foot in the FL.

Another example of a mistake possibly costing 3 points. BHA against Hereford May ,1997 we stayed up by getting a draw then GD. Had Mark Ormerod made a mistake and dropped a ball in the net we would have been relegated as Hereford would have stayed up being 3 points better off than us. They...

That is not true I think that he was initially poor but have said that he has improved tremendously so much so that the difference between the points he has lost us early season to those that he has gained recently is very little and could even be on the points gained side. My point was a...

I think that you are all missing the point if we were winning 1 - 0 at half time, the opponents completely being out played a mistake in the 85th minute evens it up and gives the other team renewed impetus and subsequently score another goal in time added on to win. So instead of getting 3...

.I didnt say it had. I was just answering your question of when it is possible to give away 3 points which you said couldnt happen, by giving an example. As you rightly say this has not happened he has by his mistake dropped from 3 points to 1 but equally he has earned us some points, so...

Could if we were winning 1- 0 and he allowed the opponents to equalise and then get a winner being pedantic is that 1 point cost as without the howler would have been a draw or 3 points dropped because the howler lets the others back in. Thankfully at the moment the saves are exceeding the...

Lets just be thankful and hope he keeps a clean sheet tonight.

I said that he mishit the penalty and Paul Caddis said the same to Brum fans. However it was a valuable save due to the importance and timning of it but dont lets get carried away and expect him to save every one he faces. No doubt Callum Wilson will con the ref for one when we play AFCB...

His collecting of crosses of late has been very good, possible credit to Niemi for working with him and noting the weakness which we could all see.

He has improved tremendously with his allround game recently and if he continues could well push TK as our best ever.

That is exactly what I said when he saved the Caddis penalty but Mr know it all but really know nothing slated me as usual.

He is going in the right direction after a very poor start.in the early season games.

Still refreshing to hear an honest appraisal from one of the best. As he said based on knowledge or past history you decide which way you are going to go, which is where the GK coaches and analysts come into force. One of the best ever keepers for saving penalties was Paul Cooper of Ipswich.