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Seem to remember you like rugby though. You will have higher standards !

Most of the elite international teams in Europe (the group that actually reach semi final/finals and win stuff) would come away from Kiev with a goalless draw and be happy. Some folk on here think it should be a banker away win. There was an away win tonight. Reality 0 Delusion 1

Oh. O.K, two of the last three

Said at the start of the group that England may struggle to finish top and that I wasn't confident that they would qualify for the finals. I stand by that. I expect Ukraine to win at home tonight. (But obviously hope they don't). By chance, the last two World Cup's England failed to qualify...