I will look up the Wahhabism but i am not sure about the 18th century predating western interference. I suppose this depends on your definition of the west. The UK would certainly be deemed par tof the west and certainly had its involvement in the middle east way before that.
As I have said...
I did, the history I referred to at the birth of Islam was cited in the study I posted. I wouldn't call my self an expert in the history of Islam but the information in the link agrees with the other information I have read.
If you wish to change my mind you are going to have to produce more...
I would agree and there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this is the case. Having said that I think that they are not entirely to blame and there is undoubtedly religious nut jobbery out there. H Shades of grey do not sit well with many on NSC and I think this is where much of the confusion...
I must say it would all be much simpler to undestand if this was the case. I am suspicious of the idea that religion in itself was a good enough reason for such hosility (a 20 year old BF would have agreed wholeheartedly but these days i am not so sure.) Do you have a link to where they have...
I don't think Mustafa needs to accept your reality here, maybe you could meet half way. I think you are over simplifying the problems into just an ideological one.If you look at Islam historically it could easily be argued that Islam has been viewed with suspicion and contempt since its...
You are choosing to see Islam as one thing. Evil does but run through a huge group of people it is in heard of individuals. To condemn a whole religion for the individuals that use it for their own ends is illogical and frankly stupid.
So many on here claim to make the distinctions between...
I don't believe that being peaceful is an added extra at all. Every muslim I have ever met has been peaceful. The vast majority of muslims are peaceful a very small minority are not.
i think it is dangerous, unhelpful and inaccurate to assume that all Muslims are just a couple of sermons away...
I don't have any :)
We still have many people banging on about the 'Muslim' Problem though don't worry about that. Only this week one of our senators only this week suggested bringing back the death penalty for terrorism.
Just had a quick look - 2% of our population is Muslims Versus 5% of...
i think you are being a little unfair on Mustafa's point here. I don't think he is suggesting it is down to us (unless I have misunderstood the 'us' you are talking about.
However there is a part we can play in improving the situation. The way i see it is that we have a choice to make on how...