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Suspicious package found in the Royal Mail depot. Most of the area down from the station closed / closing.

It's not a conspiracy theory. Just something that isn't out of the realm of possibility. Did you miss the part of my original post where I say it's a good thing the government has to adhere to the law? Whilst they have to do that we're all good. If that changes? Maybe not so much.

Don't try and undermine the debate by insinuating I'm some sort of ill informed child.

I actually quite like that our government has to adhere to things like the law and human rights. Sets us apart from the barbarians. I'm uneasy with the sort of system you're proposing. Sure, it might seem like the solution to this problem but what if, someway down the line, the government...

Yeah of course. I'm not sure why but something about the sight of soldiers on our streets hits me in a very primal way, a real kick to the senses. It's actually quite the same feeling I get in airports when I see armed officers patrolling. Or when I'm abroad and see armed officers. Maybe I just...

I agree re vigilance and being alert but it could, feasibly, get to a point where profiling starts to happen. Small group of dark-skinned men wearing backpacks chatting together before going their separate ways? Could be any number of things yet some people in society would view that as...

I don't agree with your view in the slightest but I also do not think you're ignorant. You've come to hold your beliefs for your own reasons and that, to me, isn't ignorant. As I say, I don't agree with you but I do respect, as far as I can, the views you hold.

I knew it would, despite my plea for it not to.

I don't understand the idea of matching hatred with hatred. It'd like a fire crew rucking up to a bin fire with a flamethrower. It just results in another fire crew turning up with a bigger flame thrower over and over again until the entire world is burning.

All of this. Literally every word.

Honestly, every single time Pride rolls around I think something awful could happen. I'm still slightly amazed Brighton hasn't been targeted in some way.

Arndale Centre now evacuated.

You won't ever eradicate those ideologies. Certainly not in our lifetime. I think Psychobilly was probably referring to the idea that the Muslim Council of Britain are just sitting back, twiddling their thumbs and not doing everything in their power to ensure their youth aren't radicalised.

Also, can we please try our best to keep this thread civil, a place for positive thoughts to those who have lost their lives and not have it descend into yet another left v right shouting match?

I'm honestly in shock. I don't think I've had a reaction as crushing as this to any incident since 9/11 to be honest. Children for f**k sake. They were just there to see a pop star, hadn't done anything to anyone.