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But the papers have never been independent. I will ask in my street or down the local if people are quoting papers I tend not to listen. Real life Kev and Karen, tell me much more about the real world. Salt of the earth, you know the types?

Valid points, I would of thought the Streeting chap sounds to conservative to most of us though.

My point is people don't buy from people they don't like. I am sure that is why Boris made such an impact against a less inspiring Jeremy. I think we have all had situations where a bit on the side can be more rewarding. The Hancock lad found that out. Do we know that a person is underperforming...

Most people won't even know their local candidate as they don't have the platform to promote as a party leader has. I would hazard a guess you follow politic intently at a local level? No one I know does this, I would guess the majority never follow their local mp.

I am probably like the average voter, I don't follow politics up to the minute and don't buy a newspaper. I find them terribly depressing and they seemed to have targets that they constantly attack, it seems a very odd place to be, but of course, the ladies and gentlemen that spread this hatred...