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I never said "football begins and ends in the PL." I say staying in the PL is extremely important because the most attractive football is playing well in the PL. Since the team has struggled dearly to get in the PL the PL should not be given up because of a year or two of unattractive football...

Anything above 18 is good enough for me. Back in the EFL championship would be a shame and disgrace for this side after all that it has been through. I think those that wish for the relegation are simply delusional.