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Didn't look like it to me. May have relaxed slightly due to a longer gap between players, but his hand was there to be shaken, imo.

But they're not. Are they. They are ignoring Rio's refusal to shake Suarez's hand. At half time they stopped the video of Rio's foul on Suarez as soon as they had proved contact with the ball (ignoring Rio's left leg following through and taking Suarez down). They are not dissecting every...

Just seen it on sky. Evra's hand is there, suarez moves right past it. Rio refuses to shake Suarez's hand.

Anyone notice that raphael (?) started doing it too, as if he noticed Evra might get in trouble so by joining in it could be arged "all of us did it, stop picking on Evra".

I have been referring to this point from my memory of an article on the reporting of the findings. My memory was a little sketch so I've looked at the full report I don't believe he was banned just because they said that. If so, it's on very shaky ground because they also question evra's...

I agree with you about the no grassing argument being weak, I'm simply pointing out hat in the past people have come on here and said there's nothing worse than a grass. I think lots of things are worse than grassing, including racism.

He wasn't being precious, it's a reference to Godwin's law - any time hitler is used as an example in an internet debate, the debate is over.

But that's not a fair comparison. He wasn't calling him a negro in the sense that english speaking people use it. They spoke in spanish, and it means something else, wthout the highly charged racial connotations. As mentioned in my other post, the language experts backed up Suarez on this point...

He claimed it was said in a way that was meant to diffuse the situation. According to one summary of the 144 page findings document (I've only read one summary), the language experts, while saying it could be used as an offensive term, suggested that in the situation and the context, it didn't...

I'm not a suarez supporter, but I don't think his refusal to shake hands with Evra is as big a deal as many are making it out to be. From his point of view, Evra has lied about him ruining his reputation and getting him banned for 8 games. For others defending Evra (just playing devil's...