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A full and frank exchange of opinions is always nice. Yep, I do think cats are *****. You're welcome to your views on cyclists too :kiss:

Lol... Think we've gone off piste here. Any debate on the UN would probably need another thread. Possibly along the lines of.... The UN. Is it the US in disguise ???

The former comes well within the realms of being treated with diginity and respect I would suggest. A human right under the UN charter I believe. The second?...... First world problems I'm afraid.

"People consider cats to be a member of the family. So he's trying to, quite frankly, take away the civil liberties we all have to choose who we want in our home." :facepalm:

Exactly this ∆ If I owned a dog and it shat in a neighbours garden on a regular basis, I'd be fined, rightly, by environment health. Yet cat owners get away with this all the time. Also, domestic cats should all have to wear a bell by law to give the song bird population at least a fighting...