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Ah, I see, under 3-5-2, we're not going to concede corners! What an amazing transformation moving players a few yards on the pitch brings! :lolol: Sorry, no one with an ounce of common sense is buying this. The first goal was not Hammond's fault, it was a fluke. With perhaps a bit of...

Why do you keep saying this? Point 1 - it was 7 games, and crucially, Point 2 - we did not play 3-5-2 throughout but only in a couple of the games! In one of the games we only came back to beat Gillingham from a goal behind by reverting from a 3-5-2 to a 4-4-2 midway!!! This fetish about...

Ah, finally found your post Dave! Absolutely fantastic game yesterday, my best at the Madjet for a while, and watching the other Irish hammer Wales in the Madjet hotel bar afterwards rounded off the day a treat. We have a new Samoan winger called Sailosi Tagicakibau ("tacky-thacky-bow") who...

I didn't know you craved my recognition that much :wave: I missed the post, this was a pretty fast-moving thread today, but I will now put your mind at rest and go and read it. And as for saying you think the tactics are wrong but you have no opinion on what might be the right ones, I think...

Sorry that the goal difference means so much to you? You wouldn't give up on the team if were only 5 rather than "6" points behind then? :) Rather predictably, when challenged to present a positive case for what McGhee can do in this situation, you decline the opportunity. Is it any wonder I...

Actually I didn't apply it to the first Crewe goal, but you're dead right, it applies to that too :) No it isn't - we're 5 points behind with 10 games left and we have a favourable fixture run-in, including against the team 5 pts away. Rather than giving up, please explain what formation the...

Exactly - the tactical system had nothing to do with the goal that lost us the game ar Crewe. The two-winger attacking 4-4-2 had nothing to do with losing the first goal at Crewe, McGhee had already changed it!

But it may well not change our fortunes? The gap between safety might grow a lot more than 5 points? What is the basis for your confidence that this won't happen? I don't see the logic or the arguments to back it up. If I did, don't you think I'd be right with you?!!!!!!

How would that have stopped Crewe's second goal? Talk me though that logic. El Abd loses his marked player at a corner, and the 3-5-2 magically saves us, how? :D

Which is the point I have been making, isn't it? Individual errors like El Abd's have NOTHING to do with the system. Your belief that they will suddenly all disappear under a 3-5-2 makes no sense. Now if you'd have said drop El Abd and bring in a player with a proven record of making fewer...

But how does a 3-5-2 do that any better than a 4-4-2? That's where your logic collapses does it not? That's how we conceded the goal that lost us the game on Saturday.

Sadly the system you are advocating hasn't won any games for us and it's your belief that it suddenly will despite utilising the same players I find to be the ultimate in wishful thinking. So the "pacy" Robinson, CKR and Hart are going to start banging them in under a 3-5-2 then? :) Does anyone...

He has tried plenty different. And will get attacked constantly by the McGhee outers for not sticking with the same strking pairing and tinkering too much with the team. It's called having your cake and eating it :wave:

Well fair enough, I'm still a bit in shock though that you said McGhee got something tactically right on Saturday. :)

Firstly, you've just removed their best chance of getting any service by axing the wingers, and secondly, remind me who these "pacy strikers" are again that will finish off chances under the glorious 3-5-2, we're dying to know. :)

Exactly what we did on Saturday - we got the early goal and then sacrificed Frutos for the harder tackling Hammond. Glad you approved of that tactical approach. However, McGhee can't stop a fluke goal and one of his defenders giving an attacker a free header at a corner though, that's the...

But it might not? You know, with the same players on the pitch making the same mistakes, and with still no proven goalscorer/targetman in the team? A possibility Bucky?

Yeah, I guess we could have been winning 4-0 playing a 3-5-2 system. I'll ask the question again then that you didn't answer earlier. How does playing El Abd as a CB rather than a RB make him defend corners better? That was why Crewe went into the lead on Saturday.

And of course 3-5-2 guarantees results Bucky? :shootself

Well I guess that answers my question about how a 3-5-2 system would have defended that second Crewe goal better. It wouldn't have had.