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And from what I have read the USA army was incredibly inept at the beginning of the war. It was only the lessons they learned in North Africa that honed their skills as an effective fighting force. Lessons learnt with the aid of the Good Old Commonwealth Soldiers!

Totally agree. I wasn't saying USA won the war on their own though?

Ah yes but what he told Stalin and what he actually wanted to do were 2 different things.

To be fair, if the Americans hadn't of intervened Hitler would have been able to concentrate his forces against the Russians (who had the ability to rebuild due to American backing) which would have probably resulted in a different out come. There is no way we as a nation would have been...