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Just to add more to the discussion I assume people are aware that hunting stags with packs of dogs still continues , with the poor f*cker chased for hours until the fun has diminished and it is shot. So this is CLEARLY a 'sport' designed to derive pleasure from chasing a tormented animal.

Many don't even attempt to lay a trail. There have been a number of incidents where hounds have been killed either on the road or on railway track , I doubt they were following anything but their nose WHICH IS STILL TRAINED TO SEEK OUT foxes even after 19 years .

agreed but what I was pointing out is that there is a lot of violence surrounding fox hunting in general and indeed one of the masked saboteurs alluded to that. There were some scuffles as well although I was not there to witness it.

one might consider that but a look at this thread might show you who the people who are experts in creating shams https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58654916

I think you are correct it will be manipulated into something it was not intended to and perhaps some retrospective action is required to correct that but don't under estimate the levels of violence that occur on a regular basis where cars are bricked, tires slashed, horses ridden at people. The...

Figures indicate 2-4% of lambs are killed/seen dead in the presence of sheep/lambs what is not known is how many are actually killed by foxes rather than when they have scavenged those born dead/aborted. Very similar story about the myth of foxes killing cats, they will certainly take road kill...

Most sabs care about all animals and you will find the same people protesting against other animal cruelty including snares. A large proportion of hunt supporters are rural working class, they are brought in to do the hard and dirty work - they don't wear the red (or green) coats or own...

Really, why do you think that hunts are sabotaged then..... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-58654916

and I hope you explained to her that the purpose of the hunts is to derive pleasure from chasing and killing a fox by ripping it apart when its still alive.

council have bottled it and in doing so set up the potential for a lot of trouble.....anyone living in Lewes should write to their local councillor.

I know this thread is about the stopping boxing day meet but this is one part of a wider issue . Stag hunting with dogs continues in the west country where a stag is chased for hours until its totally exhausted and then is shot. That activity is designed to tease out the length of the chase at...

your missing the point , saboteurs are out there because fox hunting with packs continues. There are lot's of things which are long standing tradition which are totally inappropriate today.

Foxes are actively hunted still by hounds and that is why people are still willing to go out thereto disrupt meetings and save foxes. Then there is the separate activity of cubbing which targets the cubs who have just left the mothers protection and are much more vulnerable as they are still...

didn't know that ...

Given most of these activities take place in the countryside it would be a pretty safe assumption that most are tories though there are a few liberal areas in south west. Added to that is Labour are seen as the group who introduced the Ban pretty sure with Liberal support and some urban Tories...

So if you saw someone committing a murder on private land you would not interfere because you would not want to commit trespass? They are breaking the law by hunting with dogs, being on private land is irrelevant its a crime. But be aware a lot of fox hunting happens on public land or land...

groups still use that term including the one in Brighton .

I do think the term 'saboteur' does not help as lot's of people associate this word with their perception of the 'great unwashed who live off the dole and do nothing valuable' , clearly a wrong perception but personally i think the marketing could be improved to reflect what they really do which...

Not sure what point you are making but most fox hunt saboteurs also disrupt badger shootings, mink hunts etc. They see all the animals as being equal. Foxes are much more appealing and I am shit scared of rats but those rats that I caught in my garden were caught in a humane trap and I let...

Not seen it first hand but follow a number of anti-fox hunting groups who sometimes fail to save the day. Those that hunt are absolute c*nts.