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Well not to Israel, that has been going on openly for 50 years or so.

Has to said that the US is open about what they do, Iran is not.

Go to Jerusalem, look at the Civil Buildings, see who has endowed them and where they were from. As I said a part of the USA, you may or may not approve but no disputing they are the Middle East Superpower and for Hamas to take them on in a full scale war was frankly ludicrous.

I don't know how many NSCers have been to Israel (I have) but it is almost a State of the USA, certainly backed by very wealthy US Jews hence their nuclear capability and massive superiority in conventional weapons. Hamas didn't have a chance and are now going to reap the whirlwind. Stupid...

I have a feeling that Gaza will be flattened to such an extent that no-one can live there in the future, not Palestinians, not Hamas, nobody. Literally a Dead Zone. I guess that means Egypt will have to suck up the 2 million or so refugees, presume Israel will help out?

Not just a flag but also have an anthem...

Amazed the IDF have not gone in already. Surely just a matter of time?

I'm presuming we can post again? Have nothing to say except this shitstorm is clearly getting worse and I expect the IDF will be over the border shortly.

I see the Yanks have now arrived and starting supplying weapons, Hamas even deeper in shit now.

Having been to Israel around 10 years ago with Mrs Jakarta for a religious tour it would be interesting to know how many other NSCers have been out there? All I can say is then when we were out there they clearly thought they were at war with their 'neighbours' and acted accordingly. For...

Wouldn't want to be in Gaza over the next few days, surely a massive retaliation is on its way?