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  1. Kalimantan Gull

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Fair play to them for standing up for what they believe in and not backing down to threats. I am finding the anti-Israeli backlash interesting, it's becoming widespread and challenging authority and the west's long held orthodoxy in its position on israel. Possibly dangerous in the long run...
  2. Kalimantan Gull

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Yeah, understood - but my take home from your previous post was that Zionism can mean different things to different people, and you would like people to accept the Liberal Zionism viewpoint as the established definition. I accept your argument that that is indeed the case, especially within...
  3. Kalimantan Gull

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Number 2 sounds plausible
  4. Kalimantan Gull

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    My understanding of Zionism when talked about in a geographical context, is that its not just the belief in a safe homeland for Jews, but the expansion of Israel to cover the whole of their 'ancestral homeland' (according to the bible) i.e. much of the Levant. This comes into focus when looking...
  5. Kalimantan Gull

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    I don't think Iran were skimping on their support for Hamas regardless of that money, the $100 million or so they provide annually would be at the top of their budget priorities. My word, I just had a look at that link you shared, I've been aware of the bias in US right wing 'news' sites but I...
  6. Kalimantan Gull

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Hamas have killed all these civilians as revenge for the killing of Palestinian civilians. That's for what. And then more Palestinian civilians will be killed, followed by more Israeli civilians. Its circular, neverending and perhaps we should all pour more efforts and attention into conflicts...
  7. Kalimantan Gull

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    You might be right. It feels like the right wing Israeli government want conflict to keep themselves powerful, they way they provoke and provoke the Palestinians can only have one end.
  8. Kalimantan Gull

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Shall we take the conversation onto the thread about the Azerbaijan -Armenia conflict? Or the one about the Ethiopia-Eritrea conflict? No-one seems very serious about stopping this one.
  9. Kalimantan Gull

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Might be the only way to survive. Certainly not the way to end the conflict. In which case we can see today's events as nothing more than the continuation of a neverending conflict which both sides habitually bring on themselves and there's certainly no good-side or bad-side apparent. So I'm...
  10. Kalimantan Gull

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    I thought we'd moved to a more nuanced position on the Israel Palestine conflict? There is a war going on, both sides regularly conduct incursions, fire weapons and kidnap members of the other side. Interesting we're still referring to one side in the conflict as terrorists, and saying that...
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