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Even worse! Most bookies have us favourites to win the group at 5/4. Hardly worth bothering. Having said that, bookies odd give an indication of likely outcomes, and, even though it makes me not bother to bet, I'm glad to see us there.

I just had a look, was going to place a bet. The odds on us winning the Europa Cup are only 14-1. decided not to bother. According to the bookies, we're 2nd favourite (behind Liverpool) to win. Much as I'd love to be confident and think we have every change of topping our group, these odds...