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They don't seem to be sure of their own definition there - 'Includes all employees who are compensated with wage or salary-based contracts' & 'Working class occupations include blue-collar jobs, and most pink-colour jobs' - so not white collar-jobs, meaning not all employees at all then...

That's just not a definition. The CEO of a FTSE 100 company is not working class simply because they're being paid for their time.

No, I have given two different examples of a persons situation. The former person would be classed as working class, the latter would not. Those two examples are obviously not all encompassing. In Marx's time we didn't have the middle classes. He defined the working class as exploited people...

He didn't. He just wants to be called something else.

You've explained yourself fine, I think I've understood. So in 'Road to Wigan Pier' does George describe the working class as: a) People who are short of money, with little control over their lives due to financial restraints or b) Fairly well off people who have a very good quality of life...

I put it to you sir that it is indeed you who are not understanding the point. The point being that we don't get to choose what class we are, er, classed as.

Jacob Rees-Mogg could claim to be working class too if he likes, but that's not how it works. You do a little more than enjoy a nice meal. You seem to travel by air fairly often and post about a fairly well-to-do lifestyle. I don't imagine you're an unskilled manual labourer. You seem to have...

Classes are used by sociologists and governments etc to understand demographic opportunities etc. None of them would class a wealthy PL footballer and their family as working class.

Fair enough, I don't know it. But seriously, you are definitely not working class.

His argument is that Orwell says it's based on your values etc, but (assuming he was referring to 84) Orwell didn't say that. It seems popular to be working class and complain about the middle classes - Herr Tub wants to live the life of the wealthy while pretending to be a man of the people...

:ROFLMAO: You're definitely not working class, and George wouldn't class you as that either. You're more petty bourgeoisie

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It does sound a bit unbelievable. Some creative judgements I imagine.

No, Doddy PS - thank you ;)

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I'm sure it's been covered, but I'd have thought capital plays a big part, rather than just earnings.