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And it’s a good thing. That doesn’t make the club responsible for people’s rule breaking before this e mail was introduced though. Just because people were technically able to get around the rules that doesn’t deflect the blame elsewhere. Pretty strange moral code that would be.

It’s not clear HA knows what it means..

I used ‘no benefit’ as short hand for very little relative benefit. Sorry, I’m not a lawyer but that’s my meaning, just to clarify. There is also an away match every fortnight so this will arise a lot more than in the schemes you are talking about.

I would love to know the foundation for that superiority complex of yours. On thread after thread you dish out abuse and I have yet to see much meaningful engagement with people with whom you disagree. I hope you reserve this behaviour for the internet where it doesn’t matter too much.

But their earning of those points does not have such a significant effect on others as it does in the Albion’s LP scheme. And buying a bit more stuff on a credit card makes a negligible difference to points balances.

And there can’t be many parallel instances of people benefitting when maybe not being aware. That’s why the father is drawn in in this case.

Yes, I accept that. However this is different to credit card fraud for which there is no benefit to the person whose card is cloned. So immediately it is clear they are not identical types of scenario. In this case under discussion the context is there are a number of people benefiting from LP...

City of London regulation used to work in exactly the way you describe. It’s not enough. It creates mediocre decision making because the regulator has no actual power. To re-iterate; I think it is more important that the beneficiary of the LP harvesting rather than the perpetrator be punished...

I don’t see any interest in equity or natural justice in your argument. You disregard equity amongst the entire fan base in favour of the beneficiary of the LP harvesting. With regards to the IFO, if its findings are not binding then it is hardly arrogant to state the fact that they are no more...

No, those things aren’t an issue for me. The father benefited from unearned loyalty points so is hardly an innocent victim. The findings of the independent panel are non binding so they are just another view, just like mine and just like yours. Your credit card analogy is a decent one and the...

And I was pointing out to you the fact that this particular game went to all purchase history is irrelevant. Once again, it is not about one game. It is about people accumulating unearned LP and thereby being able to buy tickets to subsequent high demand games. These rules were flagged well in...

I think you’re right about it going below usual LP levels. However the club are trying to set a deterrent to unearned accumulation of LP and it appears to be working. This is not about one game. They never said the rules would only apply to certain games as that wouldn’t be as effective in...

Well, we also agreed earlier in the thread that you could ignore the result of the Brexit Referendum ;)

I agree with you about 1901.

I don’t think that’s a very good comparison. Gigs and shows are one offs and generally not a part of a LP system with fans potentially attending the same show every week and being rewarded accordingly.

So there needs to be a digital method for you to transfer the ticket back to the club to resell. We are all agreed on that. However that option does not exist as yet for away tickets at most clubs. So to solve your problem the club could allow you to find someone to occupy the seat, thereby...

No, I’m not an exception to that. I didn’t moan to an ombudsman though. If you make a bad decision in life you own the responsibility. This is also not all about the family. It’s about other supporters of the Albion who miss out on tickets because some cheat the system. If the club are going to...

We are talking about an away ticket at Wolves. It’s not about selling out the Amex.

Yep, the family have embarrassed themselves trying to claim the moral high ground when found out trying to cheat the system. If this practice can be stopped then fans lower down the tiers will have a better chance of buying tickets. That’s the end game here.

I think that’s better solved by e mails going out to everyone in whose name a ticket is bought. The club can’t be expected to spend time investigating different cases. Your second suggestion is fine but it doesn’t eliminate the issue, especially the issue in this thread. In fact if implemented...