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It’s the career criminal aspect I can’t abide. Then people are shocked they get a decent length custodial. How about they stop doing crimes?

Was it a first offence? Did they close the road? Related: Did you read the judge’s summation when sentencing? Were there aggravating factors? One of the other two criminals had three convictions for similar public disorder offences in as many years, and an arrest for an aggravated offence. Oh...

Marcus Decker, one of the criminals involved, is a German citizen so will presumably be deported after completion of his sentence on license. Morgan Trowland, the other one, has numerous priors. He is from New Zealand and also likely will be deported...

Additionally, the massive culling and/or starvation of animal species who would serve no purpose. Throw open the gates… then what? You’ve got billions of starving animals. Sanctuaries would only do so much and prevent extinction. Global veganism would cause the biggest single loss of human and...

Around one third of land used for grazing can be used for crop growth. (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211912416300013) Huge swathes of Africa and Asia have grass for feed, in land which cannot be cultivated for crop growth due to weather, infertile land or lack of...

This is exactly what are they saying.

Everyone in the rich West, you mean? What about millions of people worldwide who live on land which is perfect for animal grazing, but not fertile for growing of crops? **** them, basically? This is all so pointed and close to home, viewing everything through such a narrow lens of the...

So much conflation here. It is where the entire debate falls down. Intensive crop farming has an enormous detrimental effect on the environment, but this doesn’t fit in with the narrative. The protestors want everyone to become vegan, not because of environmental issues, but because they find...

See the post above addressing this; puts it better than I could.

If the methods used are disliked by the public, they don’t listen to the message - in fact, it can make them hate the message solely because of how it is being delivered.

Fair enough, I missed that. Same applies. Tories have huge financial support…

These “social media” supporters disappear faster than a Magnum bar on the surface of the sun. Anyone can gain a huge social media following if appealing to fringe loons; QAnon, Alex Jones… it doesn’t represent support from the silent majority. Shouting loudly does not equal support. Support is...

Get a tens of thousands of pissed up football fans having a special day out, add the London marathon, add tens of thousands of protestors… … profit?

I think most of us are in agreement, with a couple of trolls and a few outliers. We all know what this is really.

You have to agree though, it’s the most delicious form of climate change. Animal flesh is just so delicious ❤️❤️

Sorry for the delay; was having dinner.

Reports basically confirming they are “protestors for hire”, as most of us suspected. They’ve been spotted at LGBTQ rallies, Black Lives Matter and vegan “meat is murder” campaigns. Mercenaries who care no more about the environment than anyone else - no different to the government, only after a...

“Sent to prison last year for blockading”. Like I said, these are repeat offenders. Essentially, career criminals.

Does that mean I could commit repeated low level crime with impunity because I don’t like the government? Sorry, I don’t buy it. We all have grievances.

What is the alternative? A different alternative to the six/seven prior which clearly haven’t worked?