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Of course there's a difference, ones a hate crime and illegal and the other while not illegal, is still offensive. Neither songs should have a place inside a football stadium, which is my main point. Do you agree that offensive chants (no matter of illegality or not) should be in the past?

I'm not directly comparing the two though, I'm saying offensive chants are offense chants. Doesn't matter what they are about, they shouldn't be acceptable inside football stadiums in 2023.

I have said there are different levels of abuse, I never said both are equally bad. Neither should be welcome inside football stadiums.

Did I accuse you of being such a thing? No, I'm just trying to convey that offensive chanting shouldn't be accepted, no matter what it's about

Imagine a homophobic person using this line as a defence to their homophobic chants... Abuse is abuse and offence is offence, while there are different levels and degrees but there's a line that can't be crossed

Any chant used with the aim to cause offence should be place in the same bracket, illegal or not. Just because it's not illegal so sing about incest doesn't mean it's not as bad (I mean it might be but I don't know) hate speech noun abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses...

It's not a chant to be proud though, is it? It could quite easily cause offence