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It's like having children mate You're never ready for it! :)

I mean the rivalry's important, but come on! You sound like one of those Scots who'll take beating England over winning the World Cup! It could be an age thing. I loved it when it was at its peak, but I also remember the days before the Palace rivalry. And frankly these days I hate the Big Six...

Seeing how tight it is at the top a 5-0 defeat AND qualifying for Europe means we must also have some pretty special results in the rest of the season to offset the damage. (Win at Chelsea, thrash Man U again at home, etc). So yes, no brainer. Happily take a defeat for the greater good. EDIT Or...