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Yes, I was thinking that. They played quite well in the 2nd half against the USA and apart from that they've been rubbish. Despite that all we hear is how proud they've made every one. What? The 2016 Euros, yes, agreed, that was a tournament to be proud of. This time they've just about edged...

Yes, good points. And of course we only got to the semi-finals / finals because it was the worst German side since Christmas 1914, etc etc etc. And no doubt people will say the same things if we do it again. I would love it, just love it (to quote another England manager I missed off my list...

Ah the 'Southgate Paradox'. Yes he did. Yes in so many respects, especially using the sharp matrix of tournament performances, he is one of the best England managers of all time. Better than Venables. Better than Hoddle. Better than Eriksson. WAY better than Capello, Greenwood, Taylor or Revie...