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Correct. And this is not a decision that was ever possible to make before VAR. So it should not be a decision that VAR should now be required to check, I would argue. They are using VAR as a fishing expedition, like the Starr report on Clinton, and random trawling of private phone...

Alright. In which case I will hold my hand up and say I have no idea what's going on. I was under the impression that the refereeing rubric was the interpretation of the laws of the game by the association of referees, and implemented on the pitch by the referee of the day. By refereeing rubric...

Only in as much as any tweak to any aspect of refereeing is doomed to failure. I have suggested on several times since the introduction of VAR that some referees are deliberately sabotaging it, others are 'unconscious bias' sabotaging it and others simply cannot understand technology. The...

Going round in circles here. I was acknowledging that some people see the solution to bad decisions made using VAR as removing VAR. I accept this is a view but I don't agree with it. That's all.

Agree. The crowd could 'referee' 80% of decisions. It's the other 20% that are a bit more troublesome...

That's never going to happen. Doesn't bother me but I appreciate it bothers others. A bit like not being able to come after a couple of thrusts (if you want to be invited back). I prefer the right outcome, even if it means a bit of .....self control :wink:

**** alert, to be very honest: Him and German Genius are always defending career-ending challenges as 'all part of a man's game', and can do one, do it now, right now, and keep on doing it, till their cruciates snap with a pleasing twang. ???

I never celebrate goals now till it's done. I don't mind this, as long as the VAR decision is correct. But it is too often wrong or slow due to halfwit undertrained THICKY officials. You have the V. Now A the R, you absolute clunge of disgraces. Not acceptable.

Agree. Completely SHIT and should be sacked. What WAS he doing at the time? Being NOSHED OFF by his intern? :shrug: Inexcusable.

Not system. People. But I accept that if referees are simply too THICK to make the system work then maybe the system should be changed. However.... Personally I would SACK the referees, shut down their soppy association and KYBOSH their needy entitled demand to be in control. Call me old...

Marking their own homework. Again....

Yes. Yes we can. :thumbsup: :O:O:O:cheers:

As long as it isn't Steve Mcmanananaman. To be very honest.

Steady. We people on the spectrum are not all nit-picky ??? Well, OK, I am. Bang to rights :lolol:

I agree. I guess we shall stay on opposite sides of the 'make it better' versus 'burn it down' hedge for the time being. Great to see you today. What a time to be alive! :thumbsup:

I deal with reality. Much of the time. Ahem.

Through gritted teeth.

Edit: that was a provisional analogy. Luckily I can have a think about it and change it later.

Well I think the OP has shot himself in the foot. VAR is here to stay. Its operation should be improved. Anyone advocating its removal has lost any argument before it has started. It absolutely will not be removed. Even Deep Purple's blind man, standing on a hill, very still, should be able to...