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  1. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    Someone said earlier about how this goal would never have been disallowed pre-VAR. I started to type a reply, but lost the will to live and backed out of it. But your post has prompted me to make the point I was going to... In the "old days", we may not have got to the point of Mac Alister...
  2. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    It feels like my posts might be read as defending VAR, but they're really not. I'm as frustrated as everyone else and was booing loudly from the WSU during that torturous wait yesterday. However, I'm not sure I agree with your post... You say: the first question is "have the officials made a...
  3. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    I thought that, but wasn't sure. The blur is such that, as you previously said, it's just not possible to be absolutely sure where the most forward ball-playing part of each relevant player is. But, and I know I'm labouring the point a bit here, that's where trying to apply the black/white rule...
  4. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    I agree with all your frustrations but, like others, you're conflating "clear and obvious error" with offside where CAOE doesn't play any part. I was at the game, but I think I heard/read from someone who wasn't, that VAR had some sort of technical issue with this, being unable to draw their...
  5. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    If you extend the line you get to a defender's armpit. Could if have been that?
  6. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    I have no thoughts on the matter at all. Two hours ago I couldn't have told you anything about VAR in any other country, simply because my focus is entirely on football in this country. Actually, then, I do have a thought on the matter. My thought on the matter is that most of us are...
  7. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    Replying to myself... I think there's certainly a discussion to be had about the forensic examination of offside positions that VAR has enabled. But that's not really a VAR failing, it's a rules-of-the-game failing. The rules of the game are very clear on what constitutes an offside position...
  8. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    But it never has been. Offside is binary. On or off. Black or white. It's never had anything to do with "clear and obvious error", which is why for offsides the referee doesn't review the pitchside monitor. (Until yesterday of course, which is what confused us all. But, again, the on-field ref...
  9. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    Well, I guess there are two options... 1. VAR ref tells on-field ref: "I think you've made an error, please go and review it on the pitchside monitor", which is essentially what we have currently, or 2. VAR ref tells on-field ref: "You've made an error, please reverse your decision." You seem...
  10. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    I remain to be convinced that we should hand over part of the officiating process to people who are not the highest-rated officials we have. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "VAR operation" but if it means pressing buttons, selecting elements of videos and switching angles etc, then by...
  11. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    France - https://www.the-star.co.ke/sports/2021-09-28-discontent-growing-over-var-use-in-ligue-1/ "Discontent growing over VAR use in Ligue 1"
  12. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    "It seems" makes it sound like something you're not entirely sure of. Someone saying something on 5Live doesn't make it true. I've only had a quick google, but other leagues seem to be asking the same kind of questions that we are... Germany -...
  13. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    What qualifications and experience in officiating the game do these "specifically trained VAR operators" have? We have a pool of full-time professional referees who are entrusted with officiating the highest level of the game in the country. Based on that alone, I'm not sure why they should be...
  14. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    I didn't celebrate the goal against Leeds for the same reason - I was convinced Welbeck was offside in the build-up. On the highlights, after Gross slotted it home and the players came towards him to celebrate, you can see him pointing to Welbeck and asking him if he was onside.
  15. Bozza

    [Football] "It's not VAR, it's the people running it"

    Whilst our lads were still celebrating and before we knew VAR was getting involved, Maddison had spoken to the ref and pointed back towards their goal. At the time I did wonder if he was making an enquiry as to whether Mwepu's attempted overhead was dangerous play or similar. I certainly thought...

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