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  1. Harry Wilson's tackle

    [Football] So we're stuck with a failed Middlesbrough manager until Dec 2024.............

    Perhaps it does. But I always suspected it was the FA rather than Venables. Since you seem to want to make more out of this than I do, I quick search on t'internet brings up this, which resonates with my recollections at the time: https://www.naijiant.com/sports/who-left-the-blacks-out/ What...
  2. Harry Wilson's tackle

    [Football] So we're stuck with a failed Middlesbrough manager until Dec 2024.............

    I am not trying to make anything. It was just an observation, but from it (and other myriad data) I infer that black players were under-represented back then. The numbers prove it. Look at the recent England squad for comparison. That said, it was simply the way it was at the time. As you...
  3. Harry Wilson's tackle

    [Football] So we're stuck with a failed Middlesbrough manager until Dec 2024.............

    Judgingby White's Arsenal performances, he looks like a worse defender than Stones, albeit his forward passing and occasional runs are superb. He wasn't even our third best defender, if you recall :rolleyes:
  4. Harry Wilson's tackle

    [Football] So we're stuck with a failed Middlesbrough manager until Dec 2024.............

    But he didn't appear keen on having more than one on the pitch at any one time. The fact that there was no comment about this was probably a sign of the times, though.
  5. Harry Wilson's tackle

    [Football] So we're stuck with a failed Middlesbrough manager until Dec 2024.............

    Indeed. Of all the game changing English managers over the last 30 years that spring to mind, only Venables hits the double top. But his man management skills were very old school, and he wasn't keen on black players judging by their virtual absence in the England squad, so no treble 20 or...
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