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  1. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    And the state to own their London homes. The fact that the tax payer contributes to their mortgages and they walk away with the profits is appalling. Sent from my SM-A526B using Tapatalk
  2. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    Not if their income is public record, they are banned from taking related directorships for a few years after office and their Westminster passes are taken away. It really isn't difficult. This goes all the way back to the Thatcher era. They knew increasing the salary of MPs was political...
  3. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    Today Johnson slipped into the members interest record that his Spanish holiday was paid for by Lord Zac Goldsmith who received a peerage from the PM in 2019. A good day to bury bad news if you all the intention is focussed on a random back bencher.
  4. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    I totally agree, but it's been going on for years on both sides of the house. It's totally ****ed and going on in the civil service as well. I've come to the conclusion we: 1) Need less of them. 2) Pay them more (*) 3) Ban second jobs. Two is controversial I know, but it's the only way to...
  5. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    And clearly not happy doing so. I doubt very much she wanted anything to do with it. They aren't stupid enough to not know that is a personal issue for the PM and nothing to do with Patterson. The last few days sums up this administration, a marriage of convenience. They all hate him, but he...
  6. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    Yes, but it's far more nuanced than that and if not for the involvement of an MP most people would fall on his side of the debate. A MP lobbying for food safety is a marvellous thing in the context of others MPs "sponsors". Using that to give his employers a competitive advantage, very clearly...
  7. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    :thumbsup:
  8. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    Exactly. And dragging other MPs into the process too. https://www.itv.com/news/2021-11-04/robert-peston-who-was-responsible-for-the-owen-paterson-debacle
  9. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    Calm down grandad. I'm no defending him at all. Many are up to it (on both of the house) but there is clearly a lot more going on here. If you read the report he clearly broke the rules but alerted the government at the same time. Problem was in the first case, he promoted his employer to sort...
  10. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    Don't be silly. There are rules in place, committees etc..
  11. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    Wallpaper, two holidays, conduct in office whilst London Major etc...
  12. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    If anyone is in any doubt that the Governments behaviour had anything to do with Owen Patterson (and not an act of revenge on the Standards Committee), they didn't even bother to tell him about the u-turn. He found out from a journalist whilst he was out shopping in the supermarket. Lay off...
  13. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    He could have just taken this on the chin. Admitted a technical breach of the rules early, gone public and used the opportunity to highlight the levels of antibiotics in milk and nitrates in food products. But he chose not to and it's quite clear why he didn't. Every cloud has a silver lining...
  14. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    Well to be fair this MP clearly isn't "corrupt". In terms of food safety he appears to be bang on and the companies involved also. The second company I am well aware of, pioneering nitrate free meat products. I'm glad they are getting support in Parliament, particularly against their...
  15. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    In which case (I think) it allows the constituency to kick him out, in which case there would be. But even if they lost the seat it makes almost zero material effect.
  16. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    There is clearly an agenda and I usually have no time conspiracy theories. Why won't they complaining before ?
  17. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    Yep and what the **** are the Government doing getting involved with a free line whip. If the committee needs reform it's a matter for Parliament, not the Executive and at worse being lead by the PM. Stinks to high heaven.
  18. clapham_gull

    [Misc] Owen Patterson M.P.

    Having read the report this morning and watched this afternoon unfold, I'm really really struggling to see what the Tories gain from this. He didn't do that much wrong in the big scheme of things. You can liken it to a "friendly" MP noticing that your roof is actually on the verge of...
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