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They were really quite interesting and insightful - they should have more proper discussions like that. Even Shearer came across as thoughtful and fluent. I normally turn the analysis off, but not tonight. Not staying up for Crouch though.....

Are we playing in white tonight? So far, three quarter finals - White v Red. White have won all of them.

In the final group game, after Germany got back level with Hungary, they carried on looking for a winner - and I got the feeling that they wanted to win the group to avoid England.