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One thing you can guarantee, we would have shat ourselves and sat deep all game if it had been us playing. Take the game to a decent team like Hungary did? You are in for a massive disappointment if you think we’ll play like that if we get through our group and end up playing France down the...

Scary, loads of coaching credentials but a tactical disaster unless plan A is working

Along with most on this thread I am putting last night down to the manager’s tactics and how outthought and outfought we were by Scotland for most of the game. Question is - are you 100% certain that with the right manager this is a talented bunch of players that could be genuine challengers...

Fair enough, maybe it’s unfair of me to think he’s close to useless against decent teams in International tournaments :shrug:

They also have managers that have won things at the top level as players or managers or both, spot the difference with the England manager

Impressive stats, how many of those goals were against top teams? I know that a VERY small percentage were against decent teams in meaningful matches for England

It is SO obvious that it scares me. Albion are at least 100% more important to me

Ian Wright was embarrassed by that performance, that makes two of us

NO! My loyalties are with the Albion over England but we would be genuine challengers with GP at the helm for England, guaranteed Has to be said, full credit to Scotland, the better team on the night.

I gave credit to Southgate for the Croatia result but tonight was proof, to me, that we have a manager who is tactically clueless. He needs the sack when we go out to the first decent team we meet in the knockout rounds. Clown

I am genuinely interested in England’s no 1 fan sheebo ‘s thoughts on tonight

FFS this tournament is bloody groundhog day for England

Of course I do, we fail because we haven’t got the players, England are failing because the manager is a clown with no tactical acumen Both do great PR though

So good he got pulled off against fecking Scotland. Flat track bully

Because he’s nowhere near as good as the hype?

Seems to be the attitude the waistcoat man has got through to his players

Will Grealish actually get on the pitch?

Why are we playing with so much fear and negativity?

Southgate convincing me that he really is a clueless clown, that is all