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And there you have it.

However likely it is isn't my concern, it is however, true.

I thought the same originally, however a closer look will show you that you've missed the point and nuance of his post.

Rebuilding schools and hospitals :lolol: :lolol: ever heard of PFI? They spunked it on five a day Co ordinators and other pointless non jobs to buy votes.

Really ? The vast majority would vote remain now ? I voted remain and I'd vote leave if there were another vote

So,so true, thats what the so called metropolitan elite struggle with

If the public are so easily tricked,and I couldn't trick them,I'd want to keep quiet about it.....

It shouldn't be,but unfortunately that's what it seems to be.

This 100 %

No, they just want to be able to vote for an opposition who is more concerned about their welfare rather than what toilet someone goes in,like it or not that is the public perception of the Labour Party.

Good post

Heres a radical.idea, how about actually listening to the concerns of people in places like Hartlepool?Your post is laughable in its refusal to see that this rejection of the working class will never see it in power again.

Like it or not the elephant in the room is that Labour is seen as the party for minorities, be it race/sexuality/religion or whatever,that is how they're seen You Can't keep calling everyone racist/thick/gammon or people living hand to mouth privileged and tell should shut up and 'Educate...

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You and people like you are the reason Labour will never get in again,which is a shame as we need a decent opposition to the current bunch of tossers,this pretty much sums up your election strategy

He's absolutely spot on regarding the Labour Party , I voted for the Democratic Network which concentrate on local issues,