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A lot more than Ben White's hoof has got us that goal and the result. But my point on this thread can we all stop the tongue up his backside generated by all the summer fuss

Spot on and just maybe it might halt the ' emperor's new clothes ' thing has beset many fans and even a few pundits. All the fuss over the summer and yet thus far to me he has looked average. Looks comfortable on the ball but that's it. The step up has caught him out.