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  1. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    Well, as you've seen with this poor bloke recently who was banged up for years the justice system and the police sometimes get it very wrong. After conviction didn't he have rights either ? He was labelled a murderer too, but wasn't. .. and as for public expense, well that's gonna be very...
  2. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    People misunderstanding the justice system. This is one of those odd ones where you are not surprised she was convicted but not surprised her lawyers appealed. When I read the judges comments I though it somewhat inevitable. Our press aren't great at reporting things either. It's just a story...
  3. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    But in the hands of a single brain cell, not the sort of country you'd want to live in.
  4. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    It will be her lawyers. The judge in his summing up said the vast majority of the evidence is circumstantial, so I'm not surprised there is an attempt to appeal. The Clapham Common murder was very close to me in a number of ways so I followed it very closely. I was genuinely surprised he got a...
  5. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    Not that surprising given the nature of the evidence and no I'm not suggesting she is innocent. There was an awful lot of it, but it was circumstantial. Not that surprisingly there is an appeal, just as it wasn't that surprising that the murdering Clapham policeman put in an appeal against his...
  6. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    CCTV would have all sorts of privacy issues with patients, it's a difficult solution. It you wanted to use it in case of malpractice where the negative effects weren't known for years, you'd end up having to keep the footage (and all of it) for years. Technology is probably the answer where the...
  7. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    That wasn't my point though. I think what a lot of people don't understand about our large public institutions is that "private culture" if not privatisation has been there for years. That toxic mix that has created some weird "other", especially when the funding actually comes from the...
  8. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    Like many others on here, I have now have extensive experience of the NHS. Like a fly on the documentary maker in a major UK hospital, without the camera. Deeply political at times and always deeply hierarchical. Like most of our major institutions, we don't really understand how they operate...
  9. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    To add a bit of colour to what I wrote above. I saw this nurse deliberately place a patient in a very awkward position. Enough for that patient to scream out when the nurse had gone. Won't go into detail but awkward position is important. Especially in terms of the danger of falling out of bed...
  10. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    wow .. and all respect to you that you came out the other side.
  11. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    I've witnessed a few odd things in hospital but obviously nothing at this scale. I encountered a nurse who (on balance) appeared to be engineering situations where something would hurt her. Whether that being scratched by a patients nails or in my case deliberately walking into my path when I...
  12. clapham_gull

    [News] Baby murder nurse case

    Huge problem with public sector institutions and often inside Unions. Those who are left leaning really need to accept that the institutions they want to protect are often deeply rotten inside with hierarchies that look after themselves and ignore bad behaviour. I am very left leaning but...

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