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That we know about, but yes. Also to be fair, we also have Dr Harold Shipman to consider. In retrospect these human outliers will always be hard to detect, so I may have slipped into a confirmation bias (I hate the tories) groove, there. Apologies.

So, underfunding/Brexit-related staff shortages (party politics) may come into the picture, after all. How much money, and how much loosening of the immigration barriers are people prepared to countenance in order to have properly staffed hospitals that would reduce the risk of, among many...

Indeed. I am beginning to wonder whether there is something wrong with Homo Sapiens. My old boss, a man who invented a real drug that is used in medicine, once said to me 'when I left behind those jackasses I was in sixth form with I wasn't expecting to find, when I became a lecturer, the same...

OK I understand your point now. One reason I didn't was that in fact only one person has stepped up to say they are a longstanding pal of this nurse. This person says (I paraphrase) the nurse was a simple gentle soul who showed no signs of malcontent, albeit she did seem to have a morbid...

It needs fewer managers and a different rubric. Same in academia. I agree this is nothing to do with public/private (and the associated culture war) other than the public sector has tried to run itself like a business, and this hasn't worked. (Well, it could be argued that humans in general are...

Agree with all that apart from the last sentence. Private medicine does not engage with difficult patients, particularly premature babies. This is relevant only in that the NHS model is not the issue, but, as you correctly note, the management driven process. Anyway @Weststander nailed it...

Was Rosemary riding pillion? Facetious comment but there is a point. I suspect the pursuit of a cause in individual cases is a futile one. For example Fred and Rosemary were a match made in Armageddon, but it seems unlikely the basis is they suffered the same head trauma. Can we get this...

see post 245. This is not simply baffling bizarre behaviour. It is behaviour that fits a specific pattern, and has a 'logic' to it. It even seems to come with a degree of denial. In fact it is unusual that in this case the nurse had left rambling notes, effectively confessing to acts of evil...

That was very brave. You have nothing but my admiration. With best wishes. HWT.

I agree 100%. Up the safeguarding and get the cameras out. I can't help feeling that if they answered honestly the question 'why did you do it?' the answer would be 'because I could.'

I wouldn't call Munchausen's by proxy an illness. It is simply a categorization of a behaviour pattern. It s a 'personality disorder'. It involves harming others (the vulnerable, usually kids - and usually the perpetrator is the mother) with no obvious motive but with the common result of the...

That's a good point. The Munchausen syndrome by proxy cases we have seen appear to be similar. Nobody suspected before the killers started killing they planned to start killing. And that is taking into account the ready availability of that powerful instrument, the retrospectroscope There...

I'm glad you posted that. When others said 'it is an outrage she wasn't there to suck up the sentencing' etc., I had forgotten momentarily those two things, one that the law does not require the convicted to give an account of themselves after conviction, and two that lots of those convicted...

Evil is as evil does. I don't think 'evil' has much value as a measurable, either when monitoring employees or when prosecuting crime. The idea that evil can be spotted is naïve. When part of someone's phenotype is the gift of deception, or when the drivers for someone's deviance are highly...

I don't think this is relevant. These munchausen-by-proxy cases are extremely rare and hard to spot till the stats show an unexpected high amount of unexpected death and trauma. Money won't fix the problem. There is reason to be angry about the subsequent cover up in the present case, however...

I don't object to the sentence. Not at all. There is no inconsistency between expecting the harshest sentencing and objecting to a tacit encouragement that the woman be attacked in prison (the previous poster was sufficiently vague to deny having said this, of course).

A whole life sentence indeed. I hope you aren't suggesting I don't agree with that? I was simply commenting negatively at an expressed wish she gets more than that (a bit of maiming seemed to be implicit), as if that's all we need to contemplate. It has always annoyed me how people emote for...

Fear and misery? Perhaps. Actually being assaulted?

I agree. Reminds me of the sort of shit we get where I work (albeit in a far less important context). The word 'unhelpful' pops up a lot too.

Wow. That's a very misguided bit of emoting. Have you any idea what the moors murderers did to those kids? Evidently not. It is very unhelpful to put all child killers into the same box, as if that somehow explains things. Clearly it won't help plan to avoid it happening again :shrug: Two...