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Fair point, well made.

He can't lose really . . . . just keep the FA nonces happy and keep taking the money. As long as he cruises through mickey mouse qualification teams for tournament finals, no ones expecting us to ever win anything.

TV had the respect of his players. He was never an FA man. The job is a poisoned chalice, no proper/decent manager would take the job and ever succeed unless it was under their own terms, which the FA would never accept . . . . the likes of Sven etc just did it for the money.

The Palace connection never has and never will have anything to do with it for me. TV was a good manager and did well for England, I don't recall being as enthused about the national side since Euro 96.

I'm not stressed about it, just eternally dissapointed/disillusioned for the future. It just saddens me really, we could be great Britain, but I don't see we ever will be. I completely agree with your opinion on politicians, there are over 600 in the HoP and The vast majority aren't worth the...

That's the consistency you get from a professional body backed by FIFA and the FA. Up there with the NAEA and the National institute of pothole repairers

As long as you continue to not think like Southgate, the longer I will continue to respect your opinion. :thumbsup:

Well, we're alienating ourselves from all of our International neighbours and led by a completely self centred useless c**t, Do you need more ?

There is good reason like teams like these don't always succeed or win things. We've had moments under BR and TV when we arguably over achieved, but ultimately in my entire lifetime England have under achieved, and failed, depsite the resources. I can only put it down to an archaic. Old boy...

We've won survival, and some promotions, we also won some relegation battles !

Depends on a lot of factors really, from a personal standpoint I consider myself European. Never been a flag waver. There is very very little to shout about currently if you're English. I hope to see a good game of football. In that context I don't care who wins. I'd just like to see Trossard...

I support Brighton. I have Good friends in Belgium ( France and NEtherlands). I probably have as much or more affinity to Belgium as I do England. The way things are heading, I'd happily swap passports tomorrow. Its a ****ed up bungling country by all accounts, but pretty good compared to the...