If 'average' means 28 appearances for your country, over 250 top flight appearances, several Eredivisie champions medals and played in the CL, yes he's bang average.
Unlike the Plank who's intelligence is well below average.
You don't do yourself any favours posting shite like this.
At the end of the day, you are not going to convince anyone on here that you have a better view and analysis of Veltman watching TV than we do live. We know what we see.
You should try it sometime (watching Brighton live) and then...
This. I'd be hard pressed to say if Veltman or Gross is the bargain of our PL era. Both have been an outstanding bit of business by the club and have both been, overall, solid and reliable players and mainstays of our fantastic improvement under GPotts.
Not been too impressed with JV recently. He's a decent defender but, like Duffy, can't pass for sh1t. I lost count at the number of times he's given the ball away recently. I almost expect him to pull off a decent tackle and then give the ball back.
Oh go and do one. You could NEVER EVER even for one minuite think that Bloom, Barber, Ashworth and Potter know WTF they are doing and this be GOOD NEWS. Always have to search to dig up shite.
Its just annoying.