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I would also point out how in that first season, our final 5 games included Tottenham, Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool (and Burnley) and we picked up an unexpected point v spurs and three even less expected points v Man Utd. Only if you define 'upset' as pissed off that the game was so bad. It...

But he said "teams like brighton"!!!!! :angry: :annoyed: :cry: :tantrum: :catfight:

I think it's also worth remembering, many of the commentators making these comments would have seen Charlton think they could do better and getting rid of Curbishley, Stoke thinking they can do better and getting rid of Pulis, Bolton thinking they can do better and getting rid of Allardyce...

I think the decision probably hasn't bit us in the backside like some predicted. I say probably both because I suspect we wouldn't be challenging for Europe if we kept Hughton, and because we're not mathematically safe and I don't want to tempt the footballing gods who seem to so often love...

It's entirely possible because 'this quality of player' is such a vague term. As GT points out, hughton had a higher profile. But there is also the fact that sometimes a manager/coach/club see something in a player no one else does and pick up an unexpected gem. Sometimes a player signs with a...

Did I say it was a mistake to let him go? No. All I've said is that we don't know what would have happened if he stayed, so jumping up and down going 'ha told you so!' makes people look like an insecure child.

I don't know. That is the point, none of us do. No he doesn't. He took a gamble based on the information he had at hand at the time, that doesn't include absolute factual knowledge of what happens if he doesn't make the change. All we can say is that the change doesn't appear to have cost us...

How do you know Hughton wouldn't have made signings last summer that would have us pushing for Europe this season and instead because of this change we've basically just replayed last year, with improved performances that haven't really been matched with the same improvement in results. We...