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He didn't mention asylum seekers specifically but, yes, asylum seekers would be treated as a separate category

Families would get more than a single person - it's delivered per person. One debate that there'd need to be is whether children count as people (for the purposes of UBI). Under my dictatorship, they would but at half rates (until they're 18). This would reduce my proposed £700 per person to...

I accept that there are different theories on this, I'm just stating what I'd do if I were appointed dictator :lolol: yes, there are some people who advocate keeping welfare but that wasn't what Friedman and the conservative economists had in mind - the whole point of it is that eliminates the...

You're way out with your figures. As mentioned earlier, the UK welfare budget is about £270 billion And £2500 would be a pretty low figure for UBI: my guess would be somewhere between £7000 and £9000 per year

I'll give the same reply to that as I gave to beorthelm - there'll be very, very few people who'll choose not to work - people want to go to pubs, buy birthday presents for their kids, run a car, go for meals out etc. This may shock you but there families now who don't work; however UBI is...

Yes, that's pretty much what was I was saying. My back of the envelope calcuations suggested that UBI at £750 per adult per month would cost about £50 to 60 bn a year more. Increases in taxation would mean that basic rate payers (and lower) would be better off and the higher tax payers would be...

Why would there be any fraud? There would be no such thing as genuine claimants.

UBI replaces other benefits, pensions, allowances etc Basic - people have enough to live on. They can afford housing, food, utilities but nothing else. If they want more: why should the state pay for them? The only tweak that i'd make would be for disabled and those unable to work As I said...

Why? Because if I'm earning, say, £3000 every month - I'll pay approximately £600 in tax and NI (don't argue that it's not, this is for illustrative purposes only) If basic rate income tax is increased by 10p in the pound then, according to IFS, that would raise £55 billion and our bloke on...

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You must know some very weird people. Most people I know like going out, like going for a drink, like spending money on nice things occasionally. Most parents I know would be horrified about the idea of not buying their kids birthday or Christmas presents. You may know people like that I...

:lolol::lolol: Will there be enough UBI to afford glasses?

Er.... what do you think UB stands for?

Indeed - although I think the effects of automation are exaggerated, it will happen. But you have a mindset that UBI is bolted onto the current system where the vast majority of people work full-time. With UBI will come a new pattern of part-time workers, four-day weeks, job shares, zero hour...

You're still avoiding the question: why is this an issue? There won't be more than a couple of hundred people who want to live like that - the cost is minuscule No, because Friedman was writing at a time when £500 a month would have been astronomical, let alone a grand. My guess would be...

A few people have said this but without any explanation as to why this is an issue? Why shouldn't people do nothing if that's what they want to do? The idea of a UBI is that it's enough to live on (just about) but people like other things: going for a drink with mates, going to the football...

UBI is not hardcore socialism. As someone pointed out earlier, Milton Friedman was an early advocate - it's seen by conservative economists as a) a way to reduce welfare payments and b) a way to encourage entrepreneurs

Why? The idea of a universal basic income is that everyone gets the same - no matter what they do or where they live or what age they are (although there is a debate as to whether it applies to kids or not) That's what universal means. And I think framing it all about costs is the wrong way to...