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Don't forget it was an 11pm finish Spanish time, too. It's depressing how shit our football culture has become compared to other countries.

Exactly, and it wouldn't be like the old days of singers all being able to move about and congregating together either. We'll see, but I'm not hopeful much will change.

Really? Maybe I've forgotten, but in my mind lower leagues are generally just as shit for atmosphere on the whole. Imo it's not a premier league thing but a British football culture shift. We lag behind the rest of Europe and beyond so much thesedays Fewer/no tourists much better in lower...

Yep. Same problem everywhere in this country. Villa one surprised me though as it was a bloody good game to watch - villa park should have been buzzing. I wonder whether the introduction of safe standing (which now seems pretty likely to happen in the next few years) will actually make a big...

Ok, fair enough. I still think the atmosphere is decent when it gets going. The first 15 mins or so and last 20 were decent the other day. In between that we created nothing on the pitch - which has happened a hell of a lot over the last few seasons. Imo that's been a big cause of the drop in...

I completely agree. Imo it's largely down to the fact that our form generally has been poor for a long time now - our win % has been so low for quite a while now. Regardless of the fact that we're in the prem, that's always going to have an effect on the atmosphere - and would/ does at most...

I think you're right to an extent, but the atmosphere used to be a lot better, so what's changed? The demographics can't have changed that much in the last few years!

Cost of football? Too many people priced out, which is a real shame, but again it's an issue in many places, not just at the Amex.

Do you ever go away? Or watch any games on telly? It's really not one of the worst atmospheres in the league. It's pretty standard with many, many grounds up and down the country. The atmosphere at football isn't an issue unique to the Amex. And anyhow, what inside knowledge do you have that...