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  1. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    Yes, completely agree. It requires joined up thinking, and basically investment and vision. The Dutch to be fair to them realised not long into the 1970s that car ownership and numbers of them would continue to grow and that cities would not be able to cope. They designed the car out, whereas...
  2. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    As the population grows, society will need to evolve. We cannot just accept the status quo of 1 person in a car spewing out fumes causing congestion. It's not good for anyone. It's not good for actual drivers who have no other choice, it's no good for commuters stuck in traffic, it's no good for...
  3. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    Cheer up. You're up to 6 likes this morning. :thumbsup:
  4. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    She doesn’t mention taxis? :shrug:
  5. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    Yeah, I think Gardiner Street is similar with access at certain times. There are ways of planning these things so it's not just a blanket exclusion, but a series of various layers of priority, retaining access for certain situations, disabled access, residents. If you make it so there is no need...
  6. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    So you asked this very same question yesterday, and I answered you yesterday. Was it not sufficient? :moo:
  7. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    I'm not the appointed urban designer on this one, I'm merely throwing ideas out there on what might happen and what has happened elsewhere. Don't have any 1:50 scale plans for you at this point. :wink: A few posts back I posted some videos from other cities, might be worth watching.
  8. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    The flip side of that is it may make it easier. Given many current through streets may become dead ends, then there would be opportunities to actually increase disabled street parking allowing closer access than they currently can. The key is once you eliminate most of the traffic, then access...
  9. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    I don't disagree with your overall sentiment that everyone needs to do their bit both for their own footprint, and their desire for larger politically led changes. However, improving Brighton city centre is worth more than just the consideration of emissions. It will make it a more desirable...
  10. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    This is part of Mouldy Boots and Chicken Run’s logic that unless you refrain from all air travel, you’re ‘virtue signalling’ if you talk about the environment. So basically you cannot support making part of the centre of Brighton car free and go on holiday. :hilton:
  11. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    Hence the need for change that you're waking up to. :thumbsup:
  12. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    The way it appears to work in many of the European cities that have car-free areas is that residences and deliveries can still use the access but the road become pedestrian or bicycle priority, i.e. you have to drive slowly and there would be restrictions. Therefore you could still access your...
  13. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    It would be simple enough to plan certain access roads to be designated areas where deliveries can occur. It would obviously need detailed planning, but viable.
  14. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    I don't think this is referring to the whole of central Brighton. My understanding is you might go from the station to clock tower link up with Churchill Square, and do the same with some of the North Laine roads maintaining reasonable access for residents only and not thoroughfares. You would...
  15. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    Are you suggesting the current avenue from the station to West Street, with North Street, North Road, the clock tower and awkward pavements to Churchill Square are adequately serving the disabled and families with young children? :mad: Try navigating the simple walk from Churchill Square to...
  16. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    You can make arrangements for resident access, deliveries etc. shared surfaces with pedestrian priority can make if you eliminate through traffic. It's not like it hasn't been done in major cities across Europe bigger and more densely populated than Brighton. Just needs a little imagination and...
  17. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    That's true, we should house them instead so no one needs to be on the streets. Solid progressive thinking there CR. :thumbsup:
  18. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    So far is it about 30 for, and 2 against? :lolol: Great thread. Everyone who would support the OP is unfortunately stuck in traffic.
  19. Bold Seagull

    [Albion] Green Party attempt to ban cars in Central Brighton

    Think it would be transformative. The areas that really work in Brighton are already pedestrianised. Clock Tower Piazza would be amazing with a tree lined avenue from the station. City lacks real progressives though who just cannot see past their car keys.
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