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We'll see if you're still saying that in a few years time

Well yes, them and the 17.something million people who voted to scythe a huge chunk of income into the exchequer. It won't just be Johnson's fault. It won't really matter whether Lab, Libs or Tories are in government. There won't be any actual economic choices which can be made.

My bad. Cameron, (and Clegg I believe). Sadly those moderating voices are long gone, so my point that new labour are a long way from what is coming, I hope holds. I can't see Priti Patel implemented much progressive domestic social policy

So you don't think there's any point making any effort at all to find common ground? Put whatever has been said in the past and try to work together to beat the Tories as a unified force? Because if you don't think that then the only alternative is wiping them out. Decent MP's, blokes like...

Complete re-write of history. show me a Tory leader who has increased public sector spending, like Blair did, plus all the fox hunting, LGBT rights etc etc etc that new labour did. Tories wouldn't do that stuff in a million years New Labour were miles away from the Tory government. I voted...

How many left wing candidates can you name who increased their vote share? Even if there are a few, we're basically talking about different degrees of wipe out. And it's not about individual constituencies. The party lost nationally because (sadly for you and me) not enough people trust...

Usually you would be right. But these are febrile times. 2025 is there to play for, but Labour have to get everything right for the next 5 years. They won't I suppose

And when those interests are no longer aligned, do you have any thoughts on who Boris would side with?

So that would be option A. Annihilation by one side of the other. Risky and difficult, but it doesn't matter too much for Labour if they are at war for 3 years (it does for the country), as long as it can be resolved with time to face Boris in 5 years time

And you see the same mentality someone's with football fans wanting the players on their own they've been saying should be dropped to fail, so that they can protect their egos. It's stupid. If Boris is good for the country great, i'll take back everything I've said about him. The reason why...

I think it needs a bit more than a usual party conference on this occasion though. It’s not policy they need to work on, we’re 5 years out. Labour need to have a deeper conversation about it’s structure, it’s soul and how, if at all, they can ever work together.

I’ll happily own being a part of some metropolitan (well Portslade) bubble then. I’m not denying that in the last week I’ve realised that I feel very different about Britain and the world to the majority of people I share this country with. Are you totally sure Boris is going to keep the...

Yes, the factionalism was one of the main reasons for defeat. There are two ways of resolving factionalism within a party. Firstly, annihilation. I don’t use the word pejoratively. It’s a tactic to consider. It worked for Trump and it worked for Johnson. Win the leadership and kick out...

Time will tell on this one

This would be a massive risk, but I think Labour have got to try something … What about a joint leadership. Starmer and Nandy. On the grounds that ….. It’s a way of giving both sides of the party a voice, It works for the greens, It looks pretty modern It would require exceptional maturity...

Me and you are on the same side. I’d like to see a socialist Britain, where we properly care for vulnerable, properly tax those who are getting away with it and properly care for the environment. The problem is that this vision of how the country should be has just been comprehensively...

There is absolutely no chance of those who voted Boris in and are going to pay the penalty owning this themselves. Barely a single person will put their hand up and take responsibility for what is coming. Mostly because their tabloid of their choice (working hand in glove with Tory central...

No It isn't Not even the maddest of mad ERG types seriously make a case that this is going to be good economically. It;s a question of how much of the damage can be limited

Your history is correct. But it is irrelevant. There party needs to somehow come together, and somehow speak with one voice That means no more labelling people, certainly not in pejorative terms. Momentum is no longer needed. There can't be a party within a party. There just needs to be a...

Maybe it would be worse for Labour (maybe not), but it would have been better for the country. Now we will get brexit and policies Boris style (oh and his right wing cabinet, Cummings JRM etc). It won't be pretty