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Thatcher closed a greater proportion of remaining working mines than any other Prime Minister. At this point now we know that coal had to go, but the severity of the closures under Thatcher and the lack of provision for re-training and economic stimulus in the areas most effected just didn't...

Please do us all a favour! :wrong:

Bullying = bull Left wing = Hitler :ffsparr::shootself

Personally I’m thinking Murray. If you go Starmer I’d worry going with Rosena as it looks all too London. I also like Murray’s no nonsense approach to the question of the Union. Labour can not afford to brexit itself over Scotland. It’s going to need to win seats in Scotland in 5 years time end of.

Exactly. He's taken the tougher option having to stand at the dispatch box facing Johnson in defeat. Not many other leaders would have done that. But given the options the party was faced with, he's given the party a period of introspection and leadership campaigning without needing to worry...

Interesting. Perhaps there are some kind of algorithms at work with regard to email lists. ???

The issue is that both the deputy leader and leader are elected by members. In the event the leader steps down, the elected deputy leader steps in. Unfortunately Tom Watson stood down as deputy leader on 12 December ahead of the general election. That meant had Corbyn stepped down, Labour would...

I've had nothing from Raynor or Burgon. :shrug:

I haven't yet.:D

Ian Murray makes quite a compelling argument as Labour's only Scottish MP for deputy. He also cuts through the more fanciful notions of say ballots for military action, and has a very straight forward way that reminds me a bit of how Prescott was. Having a deputy from outside Corbyn's sphere of...

He also introduced 'Dignity at Work - Standards of behaviour in the Crown Prosecution Service' at the CPS. Good article last weekend end about how his DPP role may play out in the media. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/16/keir-starmer-past-scrutiny

It does go to show how politics is shaped by our impression of someone. Starmer may well be a full on Corbyn-eque left winger in his ideology, but his outward appearance convinces everyone he must be a centrist Blairite. He's not said anything so far to suggest he would stray too far from the...

Maybe the posh voice? :shrug:

Raynor favourite for the deputy position. The story hasn't died for anyone with any real interest in politics. :shrug:

I'm not gloating or saying who I am behind. I haven't said I would be backing Starmer or not. I'm just pointing out the polls and therefore the mistake of believing the media propaganda that Labour is run by Momentum.

Very interesting how quiet this thread has gone now we actually get to the bones of what each candidate is offering, and the likely policy direction they'll take. YouGov has Starmer likely to win the leadership in the first round. This could be a very interesting result to those that think...

Hove CLP nominate Starmer as leader, Raynor as deputy. Thought they’d been taken over by the all powerful Momentum from the posts on here? Burgon got the lowest votes 1st round for deputy and was eliminated, Kier beat LB in the 2nd round for leader with twice the number of votes.

Ilfracombe, such a stunning part of the country. We were just up the road last summer in Minehead. Hopefully the brisk Atlantic sea air will do you some good (and hopefully not blow the Sun sports pages away...:whistle:).

That's because it wasn't intended to offend. Weststander, it wasn't snide, and certainly not bullying, it was just a reference to another thread BG started. Wasn't infantile either. You must have your sensitivity dials turned up too high (not you BG, far too sensible to be...

As it happens, BensGrandad and I had a discussion about the Sun where he said he loves the suduko. He'll get the joke hopefully and not take offense or consider it infantile. What you doing on the Labour leader thread anyway, there's plenty of other threads for you to be getting offended at on...