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So the policies that he advocated were ok, or, perhaps nor green enough, its just him personally that you dislike?

If you think labour have gone too far left why on earth did you vote Green? They are to the left of labour in almost every respect? Baffling

So you seem to be acknowledging, then, that claims that there was widespread antisemitism in the labour party which was the coprporate media narrative are untrue, and you therefore agree with the actual research evidence on antisemitism, and the House of Commons report led by Chuka Umanna...

I want to get you started on anti-semitism. Can you explain why you believe critism of israel is antisemitic? I think your friend is entirely correct - and so too does the Jewish leading contender for the Democratic party nomination in the USA, whose relatives suffered in the holocaust, when he...

Was he responsible for British soldiers deaths? I thought if anything he was responsible for the deaths of isil fighters.

But there are huge differences both in economic philosophy and in geo-politics. The right wing of the labour have more in common with the Tories and lib dems. That is where their natural home lies.

I know, why not meet every year and call it a conference and then agree on policies, take a vote, and then agree to follow those policies even if you would prefer other policies because you accept democracy. That would be a fair way to deal with these issues.

Out of interesr I just took a look at the 1974 Labour Manifesto. I think to many on this board it would be described as unrealistic, too detailed, and hard left, just says how far the Overton Window has drifted rightwards.

Exactly. If being a "Moderate" and repeating the same-old neo-liberal policies of Thatcher and Blair is so attractive, they should try and inspire and recruit new labour members and get the Corbyn agenda amended democratically at conference. Alternatively, join the lib dems or tories

Its a good idea when absorbing media of any persuasion what their assumptions and prejudices might be bearing in mind who owns/runs them, then form your own view.

I know its like banging your head against a brick wall. Noam Chomsky was right in his book manufacturing consent describing the corporate media, to whom a lot of the people who contribute to this board are influenced by, "are effective and powerful ideological institutions that carry out a...

I dont accept your conception of where the political centre lies, Blair wasnt "centre", he was n`t any version of socialism, he was actually right wing, he praised and approved of Thatcher. There is a party already in existence called the liberal democrats which adheres to policies like Blairs...

Ok, does that mean you are opposed to all sub-groups within labour, with suggestions as to who you should support, such as Labour Friends of Israel or Progress, or is it just the left-wing ones you dont like. Was the free broadband idea specifically sponsored by momentum and Im not sure why it...

I really dont understand. Clearly you have a problem with "momentum" a group in the labour party which I dont really know much about. Could you explain to me what are their specific policies that you oppose? You seem not to know. Im really curious because maybe I should be alarmed too.

You havent really answered my question - what are the specific policies in the current labour program that momentum support that you have a problem with?

What are the specific momentum backed policies that are in your view the problem? What policy changes would you make?

wow - its that simple - whod have thought it

Billy Watson

So who is doing the defining of what is the centre ,right and left. The Overton window has shifted so much to the right since Thatcher that what was once mainstream Labour and Tory policy is now regarded as hard left, so a person like me was taunted for being on the soft liberal centre left is...

My god thats eery do you think we are the same person - although probably not - I suspect JRG may not know about Gulls Eye, what the original Chicken Run was or who Lenny Rider was/is.