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Mostly from outside the box but still shots. Their goalie played well. What troubles me more is the lack of numbers in the box, we continually work the ball into good positions but rarely have any targets. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is fair, Potter has to be given the opportunity to get his players in. I'm not enjoying it any more or less than last year, I just like going :-) Like Hughton he is hamstrung by the signings IMO.

But as per your original point you cannot simply say it would have happened, because there is no way of knowing, that is why Hughton's achievement/role cannot be underestimated - and IMO remains one of the main reasons we went up. Don't think we're going to agree - but that's fine........

As we can only deal with facts and what has happened, I would say it can be very much substantiated, Hughton achieved where others had failed, despite having the investment and infrastructure (as you correctly point out). I am surprised you are even debating that point, as anything else is...

Last time I looked although Bloom provided the infrstructure for the club to succeed, he had very little to do with team selection and tactics, whereas those previous managers did...... To say we would have achieved it eventually just cannot be substantiated. We could be still in the...

You seem very keen to curtail any credit to Hughton with some of your comments. There is literally no evidence to suggest it would have happened, because we’d failed previously and in fact went backwards under Hyypia. Poyet certainly wasn’t a bad manager, even Garcia (not my cup of tea), made...

Potter did brilliantly today with the adjustments at half-time. Not getting enough credit IMO. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Bloody good summary....... don’t care about the last para [emoji2]...... Great stuff Guinness Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes I understand that and wasn’t having a pop at yourself, just really the thread and some of the contributions. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Perhaps. And emotive language as well. But how is that down to Hughton? TBH - I found the contract award strange as well, but perhaps other clubs were sniffing about, maybe we messed up initially with clauses (that would be unusual) but who knows? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You lost me at Hughton boys. This is precisely the problem. We are the same club, we are not Hughton or Potter, so why the anti-Hughton sentiment....... ‘the fact no other club’......... I find it quite bizarre Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes, I find it peculiar in all honesty. I loved Poyet, and would go as far as saying he remains my favourite manager after Mullery. Adams was great, as was McGhee......

No need to regret it, quite accurate. If I'm honest, I regret getting into the tedious defence of Hughton again, when I'd made a mental note to not get drawn back in on this thread However, I read a lot of........ 'love Hughton......... but'. The whole comparison thing as you say is...

Very good summary. It wasn't until Wolves that we re-established our defensive shape, and that was an ultra-defensive approach but necessary at the time.

But to be fair Stat, you have taken the obvious approach, without actually addressing the cause of why we get to this point in the discussion....... which is why is there so much anti-Hughton sentiment, within NSC? It feels like if/when we play well, instead of highlighting what has been...

Fair enough, I don’t agree (about the ultra defensive). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes, but this is a discussion. But can’t deny that is true. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sorry I don’t agree. We just played appallingly badly.... Had no offensive plan, but were not ultra defensive. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I just wonder how much ‘work’ he did, or was it the Moneyball approach and a list, and ‘these are your options’. Who knows? Mooy is outstanding. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes I think you’re right. All have a great attitude, well organised, but the second season will establish whether they’re Burnley or Huddersfield. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk