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It's a learning curve. I'm sure the refs will learn that it's their call to make, and know that if they've had a howler either way then VAR will help them out. Watching our game live I had the feeling we might have been denied a penalty, but I've not yet seen a replay to show that we were (I...

It does, because it's what I said:

I know you somewhat changed your mind since seeing the clip on here. But several people seem outraged, claiming VAR is the work of the devil, yet we've not seen any evidence here that VAR got it wrong.

Have the first two weeks of the season really been that bad?

Who cares if he looks a dick? On the last day in the cricket, we needed wickets or it was going to be a draw, so Root appealed every lbw decision. He knew he'd likely lose the review, but it was our only chance of a win, so he reviewed twice, lost his reviews, drew the game. No one's claiming he...

I've explained elsewhere why I don't think this would work. Firstly, because on average teams let in less than 1 goal per half, you would always review the first goal scored against you each half. Secondly, where a captain is actually only trying to review referee mistakes, as opposed to...

It's not cricket, where you have to ask the umpire 'how's that?'. Pre-VAR, the linesman would just put his flag up if they saw someone offside, the defenders don't need to put their hands up. They do put their hands up to put pressure on the linesman, but they don't need to.

So is this the challenge mentioned in the OP?

In reality, if they gave a penalty every single time a shirt was pulled, defenders would never pull a shirt again. They'd just remove that from their game or lose.

But it's not really VAR overruling you if you're the one calling for it to check something.

Hold fire - so have we established we're looking at the right challenge yet?

Isn't that kind of how it is? The benefit is that it makes it pointless asking the ref for a VAR check. Also, the ref doesn't have to run to check a display when var is needed. I can't imagine anyone is pleased about how long that took, but I expect it was the first day in the office for the VAR...

The VAR refs in the control centre decide. I don't even think the ref is allowed to call for it. He gives decisions as best he can, and VAR corrects him when it's a howler (of 1mm offside).

I didn't see much of it, but I think they were giving penalties whenever the ball got near a defenders hand. I thought so. When I read the new rules, I thought this should be an improvement on the men's WC, but it's looking like (and we're only 2 games in) they're not going to give penalties...

The opposite to the Women's WC. Maybe we're seeing an over-reaction against that, as that was pretty dreadful.

Has someone got a link to the shirt pulling?

Perhaps the refs are letting things go, relying on VAR to call it if it was a foul. Meanwhile, the VAR officials are thinking 'that looks like a penalty, but the ref has seen it and thought it wasn't enough to warrant a penalty, and it's not a big enough error for us to overturn it'. It's going...