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  1. pb21

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    It is being adhered to, we haven't revoked A50 and decided to remain.
  2. pb21

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    No deal 'lost' in 2017 when the Tory and Labour manifestos made it explicitly clear we would leave with a deal, and what over 80% of people voted for. That should be respected.
  3. pb21

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    There may exist a theoretical mandate for no deal, but as things stand that is not democratically apparent, i.e. through an official poll/election. No deal is a very specific type of Brexit, with an accepted (from all sides) economic cost, that the people have never shown to want, or be happy...
  4. pb21

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    I agree. The 2016 referendum was not a vote for no deal. The 2017 GE Tory/Labour/Lib Dem/Green/SNP etc. manifesto's were not for no deal. Parties in the 2019 Euro elections that got most votes were not for no deal. At no point has no deal ever had the will of the people behind it, in fact the...
  5. pb21

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    That's because the 2017 Tory manifesto explicitly says they will secure the best deal possible and ensure a smooth orderly Brexit. This necessarily rules out no deal; 'no deal' is not the best possible deal and it is not smooth or orderly. You therefore cannot countenance 'no deal' unless you...
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    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    The 2017 Tory and Labour manifesto promises were to leave with a deal. Tory Labour Good to see you are advocating this and not 'no deal' :thumbsup:
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    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    Interesting, albeit expected, results. I think it can be fairly concluded that no deal is not wanted by a majority of people, and, by the same logic, neither is remian. Therfore some kind of deal is the answer, that neither side ideally wants, so maybe the actual answer is just that the...
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