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  1. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    its just political will holding back central fiscal policies, its in the long term roadmap. we already have some with VAT.
  2. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    shame the politicans can boil it down to this and chose either accept the deal or cancel.
  3. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    we had a vote on the parliament that discusses the proposals put forward by the bureaucrats.
  4. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    of course they are not full leave like the Brexit single issue party. they are split like Conservatives. we seem to do ourselves a disservice excluding the entire Labour/Conservative vote, lumping into the "neither leave or remain" column, to suit a view that remain won. we're happy to assume...
  5. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    not sure why the votes for Conservative and Labour, on a leave manifesto, gets omitted from the count so lightly.
  6. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    maybe not all the votes, but the parties stand on a leave manifesto.
  7. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    what are you questioning here? numbers seem legit. really, its time for everyone to accept the deal on offer from EU and move on. hard brexiteers are obviously not going to get a better deal, soft leave/reluctant leave arent going to get a better deal. see what can be done in the...
  8. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    good point. yet people, pundits and politicans want to decide policy and future direction on the result on ~20% vote. nothing has changed, until parties and politicans make assertive decisions it wont. Change UK is shown as a gimmick. i heard their leader saying the election came too quickly...
  9. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    theres a very odd analysis i hear from the pundits, that at the same time Conservatives will need to go hard leave to pick up the Brexit vote, Labour need to soften to pick up the Liberal/Green vote. overlooks there will be many Conservatives voting Liberal, many Labour voting Brexit, and other...
  10. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    dont see how really, the laws, regs of EU carry on, they cant by definition of the EU single out a country. we'd be expected to be more compliant with future changes, only within the process applied to all others.
  11. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    i was making light of switching from single market to customs union. there's no solution from our government. i said greater minds could have found one, i dont believe they are in our government.
  12. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    the really interesting thing is what results come from rest of EU. im sure i read last week a poll reported majority of europeans dont expect the EU to continue to 2030 or something.
  13. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    issue of single market or customs union? :wink:
  14. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    whats the point, already put up a wall of no compromise. the ship has sailed, 3 years ago better minds than ours could have plotted a course through this better.
  15. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    they make an agreement on how to do this, given time and effort required. its a matter of politcal will and decisions. i said right back at the start this issue could soften brexit, create an exception for the special circumstances and geography, trade off for something else in the negotiations...
  16. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    you know it is entirely possible. if parties made compromises something could be agreed. that shipped sailed, but lets not pretend it wasnt possible.
  17. beorhthelm

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    interesting to note that even with tactical voting, England regions still return a majority remain MEPs or equal. and only equal because they count Labour as on the fence, rather than their leave-with-conditions official policy.
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