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  1. Simster

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    We're arguing two different things I think. I'm not disputing that Clegg was further right than Ashdown or Steel, but at any point in time they have never been anything other than further right of Labour but further left of the Conservatives. They have always been the natural home of those...
  2. Simster

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    Yes, if it's 52/48 in favour of Brexit and we don't leave within 5 minutes without a deal, then it's betrayal of the people. If it's 52/48 in favour of remain then it's unfinished business.
  3. Simster

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    The Brexit party are offering no solutions to the problems that have caused the stalemate. As I say, a vote for them is the equivalent of standing outside parliament and shouting loudly "WE WANT OUT". To which I'd respond: Yes love, we know. You want to be treated as a political force...
  4. Simster

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    Out of interest, what has that got to do with the point being made, which was that just because bad stuff was done ages ago doesn't mean we should forgive and forget? Is it because he chose a right wing madman rather than a communist one? Of course it is. Just another moronic post from you.
  5. Simster

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    Your whole post is based on your own subjective wording: "Their natural position in politics is to oppose any politics right of center [sic]" That is total nonsense. They represent the centre-ground and always have done, and they were formed because people were tired of being faced with two...
  6. Simster

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    I can understand why you say that but I disagree with you. The only party with any clout working to **** up Brexit is the SNP, unless you count the dozen Lib Dems and single Green MP. Does anyone know what Labour even stand for? A vote for the Brexit Party will deliver a thumping "WE WANT TO...
  7. Simster

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    Farage is a dreadful tosspot: * Channel 4 News alleged that the self-proclaimed scourge of the elite was in fact a “kept man”, afforded a life of personal luxury by the Brexit funder, Arron Banks. Evidence of invoices, emails and documents showing Farage benefiting from a £13,000-a-month...
  8. Simster

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    You unashamedly voted for Brexit and there ought to be nothing wrong with you making a choice based on the question on the ballot paper. You're now happy to leave the detail to the politicians who asked the question. Nothing wrong with any of that. I'd now expect to be able to trust the...
  9. Simster

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    In some ways this proves the point. As you said, that's ONE coalition in 60 years, and when it came to end which of the two parties was punished? That's right - the little one. They were hammered. And with hindsight, you really have to ask why.
  10. Simster

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    But portlock seagull is absolutely right. The real issue is that the type of Brexit being proposed was never specified in the vote and specifically the NI border was never considered before the 2016 vote. With Brexit winning, the whole process is the subject of an attempted hijacking by...
  11. Simster

    [Politics] ** EU Elections Poll ** - The vote that we never thought we would get!

    I'd have more respect for the Brexit party and its voters if they could give us a solution to the Irish border that doesn't rip up the Good Friday agreement. At the end of the day, this is what has delayed our EU exit, and Farage simply doesn't want to recognise that, and instead trots out...
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