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It’s about balance. We “took it” to Burnley, Fulham and Bmuff, as CH abandoned his cautious approach = an avalanche of goals conceded and three defeats. We also need to stay solid, with more than just DS protecting an increasingly vulnerable Dunk and Duffy.

This. Cardiff’s 5 powerful midfielders, would bully and outnumber that foursome. CH would in effect be preparing his own P45. CH won’t be playing that naive formation and personnel.

Isn’t always 4-5-1, or 4-6-0 if Muzza doesn’t play? So always a back 4.

I get your point. I’d be interested to know if our FB’s adventured forward leaving the huge gaps when we beat CP twice, Everton, NUFC, West Ham and Wolves. My own recollection is that they stayed in their defensive shape for the vast majority of those matches.

Sadly true. Bruno was a one off it seems.

We’re not the standard of any of those clubs, miles behind, they have great CB’s and DM’ers who can cover when a FB flies forward. We play a flat back 4, where it’s vital that Bernardo and Montoya stay compact with Dunk and Duffy. If Montoya ventures forward, someone else needs to be on the...

Deservedly so. Stains and Bmuff repeatedly counter attacked down our right, as Montoya was left 50 yards up field after another inept ‘attacking’ move. The number one duty of any FB is to defend; Montoya doesn’t.

This. Kayal and Stephens in CM would give steel to counter Warnock’s in-their-faces approach.

"Ryan Bruno - Duffy - Dunk - Bernado Ali J - Stephens - Proper - March Gross Murray" Pleased with the return of Bruno, Murray and March. CM is a major concern - Gross and Propper will struggle to support Stephens when their midfield attack us in numbers.